ENGA TE TAABATI AE EETI RAOI KEE...???
So welcome aboard all my brothers en sisters...en share wif me ure idea on this subject kee...
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Permalink Reply by Crusader09 on -
Mauri moa gkami ni kabane !!!
Tera ae taui gkami kee..kaaraki nakomai bwa n ogora iroumi bwa eaonga nba n reke raoi au atatai iaon taekan te TAABATI...kai ea maga bwenaua te aba iaona keee..iai aika a taaabati n te kaonobong ao iai aika n te taabati..
TERA RAOI TE KAOKORO IAI..AO ENGA AE EETI KEE..gaia are i tauraoi ni butimaei ami iago iaon aio..kai tao tigaia anne mai irou kee..ao tekeraoi te waaaki ike kam mena iai kee
Ngai..KTKirata...
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Permalink Reply by Konibai.Teburoro on -
mauri ngkoe Sweetbanana..
eng..n aron ae ko taku bwa e nga raoi te tabati ae eti, n aron otau. Te Tabati ae tib'ainna ngaira i Kiribati, bon man ana rairairi Beingham are ngke e raira te taeka ae sunday ao ngaia anne..ti taneiai ngaira i Kiribati ni kabonga te taeka ae te tabati bwa sunday..sunday iroura ngaira Katorika ao bon iai naba rairana ae ana bong te Uea..anne are ana bong n tokanikai man te mate..ma ibukin kan matatam riki ao e ae ra ko aki nakon Katanan te Onimaki iaon Tarawa man butiia nakanne bwa ana kabwarabwara nakoim te taeka ae te Tabati..i aki kan kananau bwa bon iai riki akanne aika aikawai riki ibukin te Onimaki ni Kiritian..
ko rabwa.
ao e tekeraoi am bong
sweetbanana said:Mauri moa gkami ni kabane !!!
Tera ae taui gkami kee..kaaraki nakomai bwa n ogora iroumi bwa eaonga nba n reke raoi au atatai iaon taekan te TAABATI...kai ea maga bwenaua te aba iaona keee..iai aika a taaabati n te kaonobong ao iai aika n te taabati..
TERA RAOI TE KAOKORO IAI..AO ENGA AE EETI KEE..gaia are i tauraoi ni butimaei ami iago iaon aio..kai tao tigaia anne mai irou kee..ao tekeraoi te waaaki ike kam mena iai kee
Ngai..KTKirata...
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Permalink Reply by Crusader09 on
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Kai e rag raraafa gkeee loveable n am maro2 ae teutana aio keee...bwa ea moanna riki ni mata2 irou kee..ao e koaua ae e kona iai teutana te kakaokoro ni iango iaon aio kee..ma e rag n rarafa riki am kamata2 ae teutnaa aio nakoiu kee
Ao are kai e bon uki nba te maro2 nakoim gkana arona bwa iai riki am kan maro2 keee..ko rang butimaeaki ma te moangare kee..
Kai na eiwatia riki nakoia naake iai riki aia atatai iaon te tabeka aio kee..ao EIWATI KEE..
Ngai...KTKirata...
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Permalink Reply by Kabiriera on -
???? Not too sure about this...this question always puzzles me when it arises..me and my sister always have a long debate on this issue and most of the time we ended up fighting over it..the lesson here is to share ones knowledge to all but not to create an argument just like I had with my sister....
Tekeraoi te maroro......
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Permalink Reply by froline barry on
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the best answer ane n te bible, no matter bwa tera aia kabwarabwara aomata ma ti teuana te reke ae e aki kona ni kewe bwa te bible so read am bible ao ane ko na kunea.
some helpful texts.... Luke 23:54 and i will post some more if u still interested.
tekeraoi te kakae
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Permalink Reply by Katanan te Onimaki on -
Te akoi, te nanoanga ao te raoi nakoimi, mairoun te Atua te Tama, mairouni Iesu Kristo, te Tamnei ae Raoiroi, ao mairoun Nei Maria.
Mauri Froline Barry, riki ngkoe are ko a tabeka te maroro i aon te TABATI. Ti rimoa ni kabarabure nakon te maneaba ngkana arona ba e na iai tibanakon ara kaeka nakon te tabeka ae moan te tamaroa aei. Imain anne ao aei moa kibun ae e tuatua Barry ba ti na warekia: "Bon te bong ni katauraoi te bong arei (bakantain te kanimabong), ao e nangi moanaki te tabati."(Ruka23:54).
Te bong ae te tabati, irouia Iutaia, bon te kaonobong ke te kaitibong i nanon te wiki, are e moa mani bungin tai n te kanimabong nakon bungin tai n te kaonobong. Iai uoua kakawakin te bong anne ba n te boki ae te Otinako ao bon ana bong ni motirawa te Atua man ana makuri ao te boki ae te Tua Kaua bon te bong ni kanuring i muin kaotinakoaia tibun Iteraera man tautoronakia irouia i Aikubita. I bukin aei ao te bong ae te tabati bon te kaonobong, ma anne aia bong Iutaia.
E kaokoro te tabati ni Iutaia ma te tabati ni Kiritian ba te tabati (te rairai ni borotetanti are e ti kabonganaki ma bongina ae ngkai i Kiribati) e a kaineti ma te bong are e motirawa iai Iesu (te Atua) man ana makuri (mission) n rabata ao e kaotia naba ba mani matena ao utina anne e kainaomataia aomata ni kabane man ana tautoro te bure ke te ro. Bon anne are e kaman taekinna Bauro nakoia i Korote iai ni kangai ba te tabati are irouia Iutaia bon nun rabatan te tabati are bon iai botoia ba Iesu (Korote 2:16-17). E inaomata te aomata n rinea ana bong i bukin taromaurian ma neboan te Atua (Roma 14:5-6). E rinea te bong ae Moanibongin te Wiki te Ekaretia i bukin karinean utin Iesu ngkai bon anne boton ma ara onimaki ni Kiritian ba ngke eaki uti Iesu ao akea uan ara onimaki (1Korinto 15:14). Nanona ti aki bae i an ana tabati te Iutaia ma ti bae i an ana bong te Uea ae moan te kakawaki. Reita ongoram n ara site aei:
http://katananteonimaki.ning.com
KTO
froline barry said:the best answer ane n te bible, no matter bwa tera aia kabwarabwara aomata ma ti teuana te reke ae e aki kona ni kewe bwa te bible so read am bible ao ane ko na kunea.
some helpful texts.... Luke 23:54 and i will post some more if u still interested.
tekeraoi te kakae
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Permalink Reply by Bwarenaba Kautu on -
Doesn't the Sabbath depend on the location of the International Date Line?? For e.g, when it is Sunday in America, it will be Monday in Kiribati. Then what happens if a Politician like Teburoro Tito or Obama keep shifting the International Date Line?? does the Sabbath keep changing too?? Well, Sabbath cannot be changed right??? because the word of God doesn't change. I don't know about u people, but I personally don't want Politicians to dictate the Sabbath for me. The International Date Line is not God's idea; t is man's idea.
And here's another problem: DAY LIGHT SAVING TIME. This is the time when clocks around the world are adjusted forward in the Spring or backward in Autumn...shshs what the crap is going on here???? Does God dictate this too??
No wonder the Bible teaches that we are not saved based on our works (what we do), but based on what the Lord Jesus did on the cross (Ephesians 2:8-9).
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Permalink Reply by Katanan te Onimaki on
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Te akoi, te nanoanga ao te raoi nakoimi, mairoun te Atua te Tama, mairouni Iesu Kristo, te Tamnei ae Raoiroi, ao mairoun Nei Maria.
Mauri Barenaba Kautu. Ngkana ko aki interest in any topic but others might. Well, we are not trying to help or to answer as politicians ngkai n ara site naba ti totokoi aeka ni maroro aika a political. Ti kaeka n aron are e tangiria te tia tabeka i bukin te tabati ao tiaki ibukin te Internation Date Line. No matter when the sun rises and sets n aba aika a kakaokoro ngkai e minomino te aonnaba, ma e teimatoa ba e bae ni iai te bong ae te tabati i nanon bong akanne. Are ti kunea mairoun te tia tabeka ba e kani kakaea ba e nga raoi te tabati, ngkai iai aika a atongnga ba te kaonobong ao iai aika moanibong te wiki.
Eng, ti na uringnga naba ba e bon kainanoaki te makuri i bukin kakoauan ara onimaki. A aki kona n raure nako ana makuri ma ana onimaki temanna n aron ane e taekinna Iakobo n ana reta kibuna 2 makoro aika 14-26. Ngkana ko taku ba e aki kona ni bibitaki ana iango te Atua ao wareka Baebaeti 2:6. Ti aki kan debate ma ti kan i buobuoki n aron ara kona.
KTO
Bwarenaba Kautu said:Doesn't the Sabbath depend on the location of the International Date Line?? For e.g, when it is Sunday in America, it will be Monday in Kiribati. Then what happens if a Politician like Teburoro Tito or Obama keep shifting the International Date Line?? does the Sabbath keep changing too?? Well, Sabbath cannot be changed right??? because the word of God doesn't change. I don't know about u people, but I personally don't want Politicians to dictate the Sabbath for me. The International Date Line is not God's idea; t is man's idea.
And here's another problem: DAY LIGHT SAVING TIME. This is the time when clocks around the world are adjusted forward in the Spring or backward in Autumn...shshs what the crap is going on here???? Does God dictate this too??
No wonder the Bible teaches that we are not saved based on our works (what we do), but based on what the Lord Jesus did on the cross (Ephesians 2:8-9).
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Permalink Reply by Bwarenaba Kautu on
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Mauri Katanan te Onimaki!
Ngaia anne...I kabwara bure ngkana eaki rang matata au koroboki anne. Te bwai ae i nooria ba iai te confusion ba antai ae eti ana tabati ao antai ae bure.ngkana i taraia n te itera are teuana ao te titiraki aio e kona n rairaki n kangai ba antai te aro ae ira raoi te baibara ao antai te aro ae eaki ira raoi te baibara??
Te key message n au comment anne ba aio te Christian Theology: Tiaki kamaiuaki man ara mwakuri aika tikaraoi iaon te aba ba ti kamaiuaki man ana Tangira te Atua (Grace) inanon maten Kristo iaon te kaibangaki...anne e matata raoi n te Baibara (Ephesians 2:8-9). ).
Sorry ngkana eaki rang matata au message ane i kataia n communicate inanon te (Sarcasm). Au kantaninga ba tao ena matata ngkana ko warekia riki ke! kaanga e kuri n deep nanon te bwai ae i kataia n communicate ikanne (through sarcasm) ma I kabwara bure ngkana eaki reke te main point irouia taan wareware....are ena kanga ai manga te koroboki te bwai aio.
anways e rarabwa ngkai ko noora au comment anne ao n kataia n kaeka naba!
Katanan te Onimaki said:Te akoi, te nanoanga ao te raoi nakoimi, mairoun te Atua te Tama, mairouni Iesu Kristo, te Tamnei ae Raoiroi, ao mairoun Nei Maria.
Mauri Barenaba Kautu. Ngkana ko aki interest in any topic but others might. Well, we are not trying to help or to answer as politicians ngkai n ara site naba ti totokoi aeka ni maroro aika a political. Ti kaeka n aron are e tangiria te tia tabeka i bukin te tabati ao tiaki ibukin te Internation Date Line. No matter when the sun rises and sets n aba aika a kakaokoro ngkai e minomino te aonnaba, ma e teimatoa ba e bae ni iai te bong ae te tabati i nanon bong akanne. Are ti kunea mairoun te tia tabeka ba e kani kakaea ba e nga raoi te tabati, ngkai iai aika a atongnga ba te kaonobong ao iai aika moanibong te wiki.
Eng, ti na uringnga naba ba e bon kainanoaki te makuri i bukin kakoauan ara onimaki. A aki kona n raure nako ana makuri ma ana onimaki temanna n aron ane e taekinna Iakobo n ana reta kibuna 2 makoro aika 14-26. Ngkana ko taku ba e aki kona ni bibitaki ana iango te Atua ao wareka Baebaeti 2:6. Ti aki kan debate ma ti kan i buobuoki n aron ara kona.
KTO
Bwarenaba Kautu said:Doesn't the Sabbath depend on the location of the International Date Line?? For e.g, when it is Sunday in America, it will be Monday in Kiribati. Then what happens if a Politician like Teburoro Tito or Obama keep shifting the International Date Line?? does the Sabbath keep changing too?? Well, Sabbath cannot be changed right??? because the word of God doesn't change. I don't know about u people, but I personally don't want Politicians to dictate the Sabbath for me. The International Date Line is not God's idea; t is man's idea.
And here's another problem: DAY LIGHT SAVING TIME. This is the time when clocks around the world are adjusted forward in the Spring or backward in Autumn...shshs what the crap is going on here???? Does God dictate this too??
No wonder the Bible teaches that we are not saved based on our works (what we do), but based on what the Lord Jesus did on the cross (Ephesians 2:8-9).
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e rabwa katanan te onimaki ao i kan ota bwa e nga ngkanne te tabati ni kiritian ae ko nanonna te bong ra?ao ko anganai kibuna ane reke iai bwa i aonga n ota naba iai ao e na reke bwa buokan otau taiaoka.
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Permalink Reply by Katanan te Onimaki on
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Te akoi, te nanoanga ao te raoi nakoimi, mairoun te Atua te Tama, mairouni Iesu Kristo, te Tamnei ae Raoiroi, ao mairoun Nei Maria.
Ana karatia n tangira te Atua rinanon natina ae Iesu, bon anne are e kaotia iai ba ti bane ni kamauaki, ngaira aika aomata ni kabane. No matter what races, languages, religions but we are all saved through Jesus Christ. Ti aki raroa ma anne ao bon anne naba ara onimaki ni Kiritian. Te titiraki e kaineti ma te bong ra ae te tabati, ni kaineti ma are e taku te baibara. Ara kaeka bon te Kaonobong ke te Kaitibong i nanon te wiki. Ma n aron are ti a tia ni maneweia ba anne bon te tabati ni Iutaia, even today ao Iutaia a tiku ni karinea te bong anne. Ma anne bon kanoan te bong i bukin te berita ni ikawai ao ngkai ti a mena i an te berita ae e bou rinanon Kristo (Ieremia 31:31-34). Ngkana ti a manga kataia ni maroro about the Grace of God, ara iango iai bon te topic teuana anne. Apology nakoim B.Kautu ngkana iai am kairekereke imarenan these two topics. Ko kataia n taua am message ae TIAKI KAMAUAKI MAN ARA MAKURI AIKA A RARAOI!! For us it sounds naba ae its another topic. Ke tao iai naba irekerekena ma te bong ae te tabati are e kainanoia te tia tabeka?
KTO
Bwarenaba Kautu said:Mauri Katanan te Onimaki!
Ngaia anne...I kabwara bure ngkana eaki rang matata au koroboki anne. Te bwai ae i nooria ba iai te confusion ba antai ae eti ana tabati ao antai ae bure.ngkana i taraia n te itera are teuana ao te titiraki aio e kona n rairaki n kangai ba antai te aro ae ira raoi te baibara ao antai te aro ae eaki ira raoi te baibara??
Te key message n au comment anne ba aio te Christian Theology: Tiaki kamaiuaki man ara mwakuri aika tikaraoi iaon te aba ba ti kamaiuaki man ana Tangira te Atua (Grace) inanon maten Kristo iaon te kaibangaki...anne e matata raoi n te Baibara (Ephesians 2:8-9). ).
Sorry ngkana eaki rang matata au message ane i kataia n communicate inanon te (Sarcasm). Au kantaninga ba tao ena matata ngkana ko warekia riki ke! kaanga e kuri n deep nanon te bwai ae i kataia n communicate ikanne (through sarcasm) ma I kabwara bure ngkana eaki reke te main point irouia taan wareware....are ena kanga ai manga te koroboki te bwai aio.
anways e rarabwa ngkai ko noora au comment anne ao n kataia n kaeka naba!
Katanan te Onimaki said:Te akoi, te nanoanga ao te raoi nakoimi, mairoun te Atua te Tama, mairouni Iesu Kristo, te Tamnei ae Raoiroi, ao mairoun Nei Maria.
Mauri Barenaba Kautu. Ngkana ko aki interest in any topic but others might. Well, we are not trying to help or to answer as politicians ngkai n ara site naba ti totokoi aeka ni maroro aika a political. Ti kaeka n aron are e tangiria te tia tabeka i bukin te tabati ao tiaki ibukin te Internation Date Line. No matter when the sun rises and sets n aba aika a kakaokoro ngkai e minomino te aonnaba, ma e teimatoa ba e bae ni iai te bong ae te tabati i nanon bong akanne. Are ti kunea mairoun te tia tabeka ba e kani kakaea ba e nga raoi te tabati, ngkai iai aika a atongnga ba te kaonobong ao iai aika moanibong te wiki.
Eng, ti na uringnga naba ba e bon kainanoaki te makuri i bukin kakoauan ara onimaki. A aki kona n raure nako ana makuri ma ana onimaki temanna n aron ane e taekinna Iakobo n ana reta kibuna 2 makoro aika 14-26. Ngkana ko taku ba e aki kona ni bibitaki ana iango te Atua ao wareka Baebaeti 2:6. Ti aki kan debate ma ti kan i buobuoki n aron ara kona.
KTO
Bwarenaba Kautu said:Doesn't the Sabbath depend on the location of the International Date Line?? For e.g, when it is Sunday in America, it will be Monday in Kiribati. Then what happens if a Politician like Teburoro Tito or Obama keep shifting the International Date Line?? does the Sabbath keep changing too?? Well, Sabbath cannot be changed right??? because the word of God doesn't change. I don't know about u people, but I personally don't want Politicians to dictate the Sabbath for me. The International Date Line is not God's idea; t is man's idea.
And here's another problem: DAY LIGHT SAVING TIME. This is the time when clocks around the world are adjusted forward in the Spring or backward in Autumn...shshs what the crap is going on here???? Does God dictate this too??
No wonder the Bible teaches that we are not saved based on our works (what we do), but based on what the Lord Jesus did on the cross (Ephesians 2:8-9).
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Permalink Reply by Katanan te Onimaki on
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Te akoi, te nanoanga ao te raoi nakoimi, mairoun te Atua te Tama, mairouni Iesu Kristo, te Tamnei ae Raoiroi, ao mairoun Nei Maria.
Ko raraba Froline Barry. Bon iai aran te bong anne i nanon te baibara ba Ana Bong te Uea (Domenica), ke Moanibongin te Wiki (Ioane 20:1, Ruka 24:1) are nanona ba e a toki iai te tabati (Mareko 16:2, Mataio 28:). Anne te tai are e kaineti ma utin Iesu man te mate ike e taekinna iai Bauro ba boton ara onimaki ngaira aika Kiritian, ke tan irira Iesu Kristo. E rangi n ataki n arana ae Sunday, tiaki Sabbath. It is universal that Sunday and Sabbath are different days, ma rairan te taeka ae Sunday nakon ara taetae ni Kiribati ba Tabati (Sabbath), e riki anne iroun Dr. Beingam ma ana koraki n rairan te Baibara. I bukin karinean te rairai irouia moan mitinaren te Katorika ao a use te taeka anne. Tiaki nanona ba e bitaki aran Sunday nakon Sabbath. Etin rairan te taeka ae Sunday ba Tomenika, Ana Bong te Uea, ke Moanibongin te Wiki. E aki kabonganaki aei i Kiribati i an bukina anne.
KTO
froline barry said:e rabwa katanan te onimaki ao i kan ota bwa e nga ngkanne te tabati ni kiritian ae ko nanonna te bong ra?ao ko anganai kibuna ane reke iai bwa i aonga n ota naba iai ao e na reke bwa buokan otau taiaoka.
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