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Permalink Reply by Tiare Erekana on August 20, 2009 at 7:57am

Mauri riki ... hehe

I kan reitia riki bwa ia manga tibwa nora te iango are onean mwin "B'a" ni "bwa"... e a tib'a riki te tua ane e boou anne iroun te Kiribati Language Board i taku bwa n 1986 .. ma aki kan ira nanon te bitaki anne aro aika te katorika ao te KPC ... bon ti ana botaki ma ana reirei te tautaeka aika a kabongana te bitaki anne... are nanona bwa ena bon aki naba kona ni bitaki aran Tabuiroa nakon Tabwiroa iaan karinan "w" ibukina aikai:

1. Bon reirein te katorika are e aki kabongana "w"

2.tuan kamanenan "w" ena ti onea mwin te taneieta('). E ti kabonganaki te taneieta anne ti n taeka aika ... m'a ao b'a ma ake a riki bwa "mwa" ao "bwa"... i taku bwa akea te taneieta ae e kabongaki ni vowels aika ... e, i, o and u ... e.g. akea ae kangai... m'e, m'i, m'o and m'u... ao akea naba ae b'e, b'i, b'o, b'u??? Ngkana eti anne ao ngkanne ena akea etin ae e bitaki Tabuiroa nakon Tabwiroa bwa are akea te taneieta ae e rin nte ara ae Tabuiroa (not written as "Tab'iroa" before the "w'' was introduced in 1986).

3. Ea kaman spelled bwa Tabwiroa imwain karinan "w" nte ririki 1986 n aron ane e manga oti naba n ana tamnei Nei Reei ae i nano ... tara aran aia karinano ataeinaine aikanne bwa e mwakoro te ara ae kangai: "SEEK TRUTH .... TABWIROA.... TABORIO... n ana narration Reei ao e taku anne tamneia n 1985 ... imwain karinan "w".

3. te point ae i taekinna ngkoa n au discussion ae ieta ... bwa e okoro aran te mwakoro naba n aba are e tei iai te reirei ao aran te reirei bwa ea bon nakon are e moan bwaina bwai ke te organisation anne ... nanona teuare e kunea hence e claim ownership iai. Aia bakatibu kain te mwakoro anne tao arana te mwakoro anne bwa "Tabuiroa" ma tao Taama ake a katea Tabwiroa... arana bwa Tabwiroa... are e bon kona ni bibitaki te ara nte tai teuana nakon te tai teuana ... n aron naba aran Kiribati ae Tungaru irouia ara bakatibu ao Kiribati irouia imatang ake a tibwa roko rimwi riki (aran te Captain are Gilbert are aongkoa e "kunei" abara ake tia kaman maekan) ... ma imwin te tai ao e kabonganaaki te ara are ea tibwa roko rimwi ae Kiribati bwa ana official name abara ikai ... why? bwa are anne te ara ae a choose naake a moan katea te new nation ae Kiribati...

E rabwa moa anne

Permalink Reply by TMC on August 21, 2009 at 6:04pm

Mauri naba Tiare ao ngkami kain te mironron,
ba ngaia noo erangi ni iai naba te confusion tabetai tarana ba very simple ba kanga iai teutana confuse. Ngai irou bon no doubt ae Tabwiroa is commonly used ao iaki say it is the wrong one..ebon koaua ane ko taku naba akanne ma i kan reitia naba ma ana point ten zzail ba in terms of the pronaunciation there will be same sound . anne eaki matter iai te name ae tabuiroa ao tabwiroa when we say it. but of course the big difference is the way it is written down. ma ngai irou kanga bon akea naba te difference n aron are emention naba nana point ten zzail. ma are ko mention te school ngkanne ebon registered nte name are tabwiroa ba ekanikina ba e bon anne ae kakabongaki ni koreakina ntaai ni karokoa ngkai. naron are ko mention ba tabuiroa mean..i aki ataia ba ereke ia am definition anne lol eti anne are ma ngkanne ngai i bontiba use naba te word ae tabuiroa ba bon au interest mairoun teunimane are titau taniera ngke ekaraki iaon rimoa ibuikin ranon te meaning word ae tabuiroa ao ngaia anne bukina i kabongana..ae bon oti ba bon tingai ae use it ehehe ma iaki rangi nikaungaia aomata ke ex ke students ma ana use tabuiroa ba are bon iai te registered name are tabwiroaehehe
erangini raraba am point aio Tiare ao tia manga ongoongora riki ngkana iai..tekeraoi

Tiare Erekana said:

Mauri Taoata ao kain te maroro aei
compound
I taku bwa e rangi ni critical te issue aei bwa ngkana e bitaki te spelling ao ea karekea naba te confusion .... bwa irou e rangi n okoro Tabuiroa ma Tabwiroa.

Tao tabeman a kateitei iaon te karaki ni kawai n aron ake a taekinaki n aron moan reken aran te mwakoro anne (i aki ataia ngkana te koaua bwa are akea mwina nte boki (no record) ao tao e mena ao bon te karaki ae ea karioa naba te tia reirei anne ... kanga bon te iango). ma e nage n anne ao iai reitan karakinan Tabwiroa imwin anne bwa a roko iai ana Mitinare te Katorika ni katea te reirei ibukiia kain te itera meang ao i nanon te waaki ao tao e kamatauninga ke tao e tara buaka ae Tabuiroa riki ngkai reirein te aro ke tao taan reirei ake tiaki i-Kiribati e kanganga irouia katangan Tabuiroa ai ngaia are ngkana e spelled bwa "Tabwiroa" ao e bebete riki... te iango naba ni kakuakua.

In any case e ataki ngkekei ao ngkai ae aran te reirei anne bon Tabwiroa ao e spelled bwa Tabwiroa. Te ara aei ea tiku bwa aran te reirei (official name) n raona ana names ake tabeua bwa tao CJC ke SJC... ke CSC (Catholic Secondary College) ... araia ngkoa ni botaki ngaia ma Taborio ngkekei. Ibukin anne ao te ara ae Tabwiroa ea reke bwa part of ana official name te reirei hence spelling is very important in this connection ibukina bwa ngkana ko spell Tabuiroa ao ngai irou ko nanona te mwakoro n aba are tao e tei iai te reirei anne ao tia aki ataia bwa e toki ia tian te mwakoro ae Tabuiroa n nako iang nako Taburao ao nako aiaki nako Tuarabu. Ma ngkana ko korea Tabwiroa ao irou ko kananona te reirei ae Tabwiroa are e reke naba iai Auiang.

Kanga ti tabo ma te ara ae Kiribati .. ana translation te ara ae Gilbert... ma ngkana ti korea Kiribati .. e koaua bwa ti kananona ti aba aika Makin n nako Arorae ake ngaia kain te aono ni Kiribati ke te Gilbert group? ... I taku bwa ti ata kaekaan anne bwa e kananonaki Kiribati ae te nation/country ae ana boundary e moa mai Banaba ... Gilbert, Phoenix ao te Line groups... are nanona ngkanne bwa Kiribati bon aia official name taian groups akanne ni combine ke as a whole ... n aron naba Tabwiroa ae ana official name taian reirei (school compounds) aika a mena i Tabuiroa ao i Auiang... bwa are bwai aika a kaokoro aran te reirei ao aran te mwakoro n aba are e tei iai.

Official name of institutions ke organisations ... in this case the school, is the name plus the spellings used when the school was first registered in this case with the Catholic Education Office and later with the Ministry of Education for government recognision. The name is then usually printed on the school's letter head and other stationeries and on on its sign board at the entrance of its campus/premisis... much like the name of offices in Tarawa. Ibukin anne ao (with ana permission Nei Reei Tioti .. photo owner) i kan kaota te tamnei ae i nano aei ibukin ami info bwa enga raoi ana offical name te reirei.

Bon ti te kario iango ao kam raba

Permalink Reply by TMC on August 21, 2009 at 6:36pm

mauri riki Tiare,
erangini raraba am sharing ikai ao erikirake ni interesting . ngai nna reitia ao ikakoaua are b'a ke bwa ba (')bon onean min te w ao i ongongo naba are ko taku are te kpc and te katorika using te kaokoro tabeua ma tiaki anne ara kanganga iaon ara topic aio eheh.
i kan mention ikai ba iai ara book Gilbertertese Grammar is written by the scared heart mission in 1963 and it was published in tabuiroa and in it the tabwiroa is spelled with u.. tabuiroa...this shows that in the 1960's it was spelled with the U....ena bakara moa anne kanga ti kan karini iango tabeua..ma tia ongongora riki kam rab'a

Tiare Erekana said:

Mauri riki ... hehe

I kan reitia riki bwa ia manga tibwa nora te iango are onean mwin "B'a" ni "bwa"... e a tib'a riki te tua ane e boou anne iroun te Kiribati Language Board i taku bwa n 1986 .. ma aki kan ira nanon te bitaki anne aro aika te katorika ao te KPC ... bon ti ana botaki ma ana reirei te tautaeka aika a kabongana te bitaki anne... are nanona bwa ena bon aki naba kona ni bitaki aran Tabuiroa nakon Tabwiroa iaan karinan "w" ibukina aikai:

1. Bon reirein te katorika are e aki kabongana "w"

2.tuan kamanenan "w" ena ti onea mwin te taneieta('). E ti kabonganaki te taneieta anne ti n taeka aika ... m'a ao b'a ma ake a riki bwa "mwa" ao "bwa"... i taku bwa akea te taneieta ae e kabongaki ni vowels aika ... e, i, o and u ... e.g. akea ae kangai... m'e, m'i, m'o and m'u... ao akea naba ae b'e, b'i, b'o, b'u??? Ngkana eti anne ao ngkanne ena akea etin ae e bitaki Tabuiroa nakon Tabwiroa bwa are akea te taneieta ae e rin nte ara ae Tabuiroa (not written as "Tab'iroa" before the "w'' was introduced in 1986).

3. Ea kaman spelled bwa Tabwiroa imwain karinan "w" nte ririki 1986 n aron ane e manga oti naba n ana tamnei Nei Reei ae i nano ... tara aran aia karinano ataeinaine aikanne bwa e mwakoro te ara ae kangai: "SEEK TRUTH .... TABWIROA.... TABORIO... n ana narration Reei ao e taku anne tamneia n 1985 ... imwain karinan "w".

3. te point ae i taekinna ngkoa n au discussion ae ieta ... bwa e okoro aran te mwakoro naba n aba are e tei iai te reirei ao aran te reirei bwa ea bon nakon are e moan bwaina bwai ke te organisation anne ... nanona teuare e kunea hence e claim ownership iai. Aia bakatibu kain te mwakoro anne tao arana te mwakoro anne bwa "Tabuiroa" ma tao Taama ake a katea Tabwiroa... arana bwa Tabwiroa... are e bon kona ni bibitaki te ara nte tai teuana nakon te tai teuana ... n aron naba aran Kiribati ae Tungaru irouia ara bakatibu ao Kiribati irouia imatang ake a tibwa roko rimwi riki (aran te Captain are Gilbert are aongkoa e "kunei" abara ake tia kaman maekan) ... ma imwin te tai ao e kabonganaaki te ara are ea tibwa roko rimwi ae Kiribati bwa ana official name abara ikai ... why? bwa are anne te ara ae a choose naake a moan katea te new nation ae Kiribati...

E rabwa moa anne

Permalink Reply by Reei Tioti on August 22, 2009 at 5:13am

Mauri ngkami kain te maneaba ae kakateke aio....

kanga e tara n ae ea bon boo atin te kaiei iango iaon te right name ae kabonganaki ibukin ara reirei are momin nanora kee. N aron ae taekinna Tiare Erekana ao bon anne ae kanga e bon rangi ni bainaki n te reirei. N ara tai ao te name ae 'Tabwiroa' e bon rangi ni kamanenaki. N ara uniform are te tshirt are e makoro aran te reirei ao e kaota naba iai Tabwiroa ma tiaki Tabuiroa. E official are Tabwiroa ngkai a bon use taan reirei ao ataein te reirei ngaia are a bon kaotia naba n aia entrance sign n aron ane e post Tiare. N aron naba ane e oti n te route map ibukin Auiang ao Tabwiroa e bon makoro naba iai ae 'bwi'...

E raba moa anne ao tekeraoi ngkami

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Permalink Reply by Teemeri Itienang on October 6, 2009 at 7:57pm

Koaki kewe Terieta bon te eeti ane ko taku anne...tia bane naba iaan atongana ao koreana ae Tabuiroa/Tabwiroa bwa ai atongan naba ara reirei ae Saint Joseph's College...e rabwa te kaoti...

T.T.Aroito said:

This thing's really confusing but personally what makes it that up and down is the fact when it comes to writing.. In pronouncing, both names sound the same. Respectively to Abaiang's history, the school was named Tabuiroa or Tabwiroa due to where it was built. yet in the 80s the name was written as Tabwiroa regardless of catholic's anti-usage of 'w'. well It doesn't matter to me as long as the pronounciation is not changed. I'll live with both names but I ..... SJC which is the real school name but People prefer to say in Kiribati Tabwiroa instead of a long english word Saint J's College. Thax.

Permalink Reply by kirimaitoro on October 7, 2009 at 6:25am

Neiko ngkoe Nei Itinnang, e aera kai ko aranai ba Terieta ao bon John ngai,, AH AH AH!!! ao ngke ko raba n am reply ao ngkai ea manga reke te kaaitiboo... ngaia anne e bon aki akaaka koreana ma e akaaka atongana..
Tekeraoi ao ngai bon antin buakonikai....... tiaboo

Teemeri Itienang said:

Koaki kewe Terieta bon te eeti ane ko taku anne...tia bane naba iaan atongana ao koreana ae Tabuiroa/Tabwiroa bwa ai atongan naba ara reirei ae Saint Joseph's College...e rabwa te kaoti...

T.T.Aroito said:

This thing's really confusing but personally what makes it that up and down is the fact when it comes to writing.. In pronouncing, both names sound the same. Respectively to Abaiang's history, the school was named Tabuiroa or Tabwiroa due to where it was built. yet in the 80s the name was written as Tabwiroa regardless of catholic's anti-usage of 'w'. well It doesn't matter to me as long as the pronounciation is not changed. I'll live with both names but I ..... SJC which is the real school name but People prefer to say in Kiribati Tabwiroa instead of a long english word Saint J's College. Thax.

Permalink Reply by TMC on October 9, 2009 at 3:44pm

mauri ngkami kam share ami iango iaon te ara aio kam raraba ao ekoaua ba are ti naki irannano iai nakon te name anne we all know the official now Tabwiroa and english name like you mention Terieta St Joseph's College and Tabuiroa is another long story...thanks again very much ao tekeraoi te waki

Permalink Reply by RedAnt on October 16, 2009 at 7:04am

Mauri,

N au ururing nte 1983 ao iai kunikai aika baboobo aika tiitibwaaki n tain te sports day ao te design iaon kunikai akanne e makoro iai Tabwiroa. e ngae n anne ao are e bon tiku naba inanon te mronron te maroro be nga raoi etin anne.

tekeraoi.

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